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Offline dj2000

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Sanity check for someone new
« on: February 14, 2017, 07:19:01 PM »
Im new to advanced Christmas decorations and thought a pixel tree would be a great start.   Im looking at doing a tree about 3 meters tall and using 12v lights.  I know I will need a host of generic pieces not listed below such as solder, wire ties, heat shrink tube., but I think the biggest opportunity for mistakes is going to be in controller and lights selection. 

Below are the major components I was going to buy, if someone (or more then one) could take a look that would be great.   Also am I missing anything that is specific to pixel lights or the Falcon controller that will be required?

Thanks


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Falcon F16V3


I'll need one of the three types of lights below.   I have a couple different thoughts on exactly how to attach the lights to the tree frame, but not sure which I will settle on.  Do any of these three lights look like they will be incompatible with the Falcon or have some other significant  problem?  All of the lights have control chips that I believe are supported by the F16v3. 

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/5m-DC12V-WS2812B-addressable-pixel-strip-waterproof-in-silicon-tube-30pcs-WS2812B-M-with-30pixels-36W/701799_32313871852.html
This looks like a 30 pixel to a meter, 33mm pixel size in a waterproof case.  I would use these in 3 meter sections, so the 12v/5v split point shouldnt matter.

Both of the below lights I would use in 50 lights/pixel over 3 meters, but I am a bit concerned over the IP65 vs IP68 rating.  Any concern with that?
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DC12V-WS2811-LED-smart-string-addressable-IP65-rated-injection-molding-type-100pcs-a-string/701799_32449049446.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DC5V-50nodes-WS2811-addreable-LED-pixel-module-pixel-string-IP68-rated-RGB-full-color-256-gray/701799_32225918892.html



Pig tails

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/10pcs-lot-3-Core-BLACK-Waterproof-pigtail-20cm-long-each-male-and-female-male-connector-s/701799_1019853359.html?spm=2114.12010615.0.0.TXoBKI

Power supplies

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/5V-400W-rain-proof-switch-mode-Power-Supply-AC120V-or-AC230V-input-DC5V-output/701799_1750596067.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.HTSckv




Offline jnealand

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Re: Sanity check for someone new
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2017, 08:06:20 PM »
Look around and you will see a lot of folks that tried pixel strips and have moved to nodes.  Count me as one of them.  Although I like the strips when they fail, and they will fail, they are 100 times more difficult to repair than replacing a node.  I have too many things to work on and not enough time.  My strips are attached to 1/2" emt and hanging horizontally on a bracket on a wall above my workbench.  I am unwilling to throw them out, but I never have time to repair them and that first rgb tree made with those has now been replaced with 3 rgb trees made from nodes using Boscoyo mounting strips.  I'm also a user of 12v nodes just because I have no interest (yet) in getting into power injection if I can avoid it.  With 5v you will almost certainly be doing power injection.  It is your show and your choice.  If you are like the rest of us you will try some things and the following year replace it with other stuff.  After 9 years my museum of old stuff is getting too full and I am starting to just throw stuff away although I have also sold some things off that still worked but were no longer my preference.  My motto is keep it simple and easy and you will be less frustrated.
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Re: Sanity check for someone new
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2017, 08:14:59 PM »
I'm with Jim 100% on this. RIP strips


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Re: Sanity check for someone new
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2017, 08:14:49 AM »
I love strips and not that hard to fix once you get it down but I would do pixels for a mega tree unless you really like your tree to look like a pile of lightsabers.   ;D  The key to fixing strips is to use clothespins.  Use them first to hold silicone cover while cutting and then to retract cover while soldering, and to keep in place while the silicone glue dries.  For splicing, I use a silicone butt joint with the end cut off to join.  I am probably faster at fixing strips than pixels.  Knocks wood.  My strips have held up better than my pixels. 
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Re: Sanity check for someone new
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2017, 12:24:24 PM »
I too had ran strips on everything on my display. Yes I have gotten real good at fixing splicing in new sections.  You do get more bang for your buck .  This year I will end up ordering almost 6000 bullets to replace my strips.  Already have gotten in 4000 of them. As for my old lights I'm just going to give them away.  I have someone in mind. But I will tell him that they are temperamental.  With square bullets using Bosco's strips makes it that easy to mount. You can set up for 1 inch 2 inch or 3 inch on Center whatever you would like.  Power supply. It's not the waterproofing that matters it making sure it can adjust the voltage.  I use the cheapies off Amazon and in 3 years never had an issue.  Just over rate for what you need. Wattage that is.  Keep the volts around 11. 
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Re: Sanity check for someone new
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2017, 01:01:26 PM »
... With square bullets ...

Square Bullets??? ::)

Are they like Jumbo Shrimp, Military Intelligence, and Pretty Ugly? ;D
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Re: Sanity check for someone new
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2017, 01:19:31 PM »
Yes, they're the same difference, unless I clearly misunderstand. 


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Re: Sanity check for someone new
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2017, 02:09:10 PM »
WS 2811 12v Square Smart Pixels Hmmm better..... 8)

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Re: Sanity check for someone new
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2017, 02:13:42 PM »
As for the strips my issues is the rain, Once the freezing temps set in I'm golden. With a 26 foot tree if the uppers ones failed that sucked.

 

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