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Offline Ulan

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Mixing types of pixels
« on: January 13, 2019, 02:12:36 PM »



I ordered the F48 and some pixels to get started.


I was wondering can I also use "dumb" rgb strands just like the pixels off the same F48 or do i need a different type of controller?   


Does anybody know a good site to order some?

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Re: Mixing types of pixels
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2019, 02:37:18 PM »
Ulan, a few things you may want to know as you get into this:


The F48 is a "sender board" with all the intelligence needed onboard for control - no direct connect to pixels.  It requires "receivers" at the location of your props.  All the receivers that I know of (for the F48) are for "smart pixels".


The difference between "smart pixels" and "dumb pixels" is the location of the controlling chips. 


With smart-pixels the chips to control each LED (usually 3 in a pixel) are in the pixel package itself (or really close as in some strips and rectangle packages.)  Smart pixels require power (+ & -) and a data signal to be sent to every pixel.


With dumb-pixels, the controlling chips are on the controller itself.  They then send the proper voltage to the string as a whole.  No control pixels on the string - just LEDs connected together.  Also note, dumb-pixels are usually controlled as a whole string of pixels - not individual pixels.
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Re: Mixing types of pixels
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2019, 06:53:23 PM »



I ordered the F48 and some pixels to get started.


I was wondering can I also use "dumb" rgb strands just like the pixels off the same F48 or do i need a different type of controller?   



Does anybody know a good site to order some?
Dumb pixel controllers are available stateside from Holiday Coro @ $49.00. I believe you can get them on Amazon, E-bay or Ali Express also.
You can get smart pixels form a variety of sources. DIY LED Express, HC, Amazon, E-bay or Ray WU if you want a larger qty.
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Re: Mixing types of pixels
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2019, 07:49:46 PM »
To clarify - what most people call "dumb pixels" aren't really pixels. A pixel is an individual dot or light that can change independent of the other dots or lights around it. Smart Pixels can do that. Dumb pixels can't - their entire string, however long, does the same thing end to end.

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Re: Mixing types of pixels
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2019, 01:57:54 PM »



So I would need another type of controller as well. 


Thanks!

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Re: Mixing types of pixels
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2019, 03:26:13 PM »
To clarify - what most people call "dumb pixels" aren't really pixels.
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