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Sequence Question
« on: January 01, 2015, 09:24:25 AM »
OK folks,
  I have the Falcon Player for my pi sorted out. What is the best program to use to sequence my music? I heard people say LOR or vixen but I am unsure what to use as a new guys doing this. My last player you just uploaded MP3 and watch it go lol. But now I want to do this all my self and I kinda like the challenge of new things.

Thanks gang...
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Re: Sequence Question
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2015, 09:51:10 AM »
Nutcracker.  Its free, fast, and can provide amazing effects with little effort. It does best with pixels, but can also handle other types of lights.
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Re: Sequence Question
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2015, 10:36:15 AM »
These are the most popular sequencers

I would download the demos and give each a try

FREE
HLS                         http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?103-Hinkle-s-Lighting-Sequencer
Vixen+                    http://diychristmas.org/vb1/forumdisplay.php?19-Vixen
Vixen3                     http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?96-Vixen-3
xLights/Nutcracker  http://nutcracker123.com/nutcracker/releases/

COMMERCIAL
LSP      ($250 8K channels, $400 32K channels)                   http://lightshowpro.com/vbdownloads.php
LOR  ($140)                                                                           http://store.lightorama.com/sopr.html

Some people also use the professional software used by nightclubs
Madrix  ($500-$2500)                                                            http://www.madrix.com/en/home/download/madrix-software.html
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Re: Sequence Question
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2015, 10:45:32 AM »
WOW - I didn't realize LSP had become that expensive!  I think I paid $60-80ish for 8K channels a few years ago.  Felt like that was a rip-off given the continual lock-ups, crashes and hours of processing time to get the effect I wanted.  Don't think I ever even used it for a real show...just tinkering.  Then they wanted even more money for the 2.5>2.8 upgrade.  Hopefully the current price has brought a 4-5x (or more!!) improvement in usability/stability, etc.

Makes ya appreciate XL/N even more!
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Re: Sequence Question
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2015, 01:50:43 PM »
Lsp has some issues for sure. I've always used it tho. Ive seen some great shows done by others here using nutcracker and it looks awesome and its free.
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Re: Sequence Question
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2015, 03:49:40 PM »
I just grab the nutcracker in hopes I can make some nice shows out of it for this coming Christmas.

Thanks guys for the info..


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Re: Sequence Question
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2015, 04:08:09 PM »
I just grab the nutcracker in hopes I can make some nice shows out of it for this coming Christmas.

Thanks guys for the info..


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I'm gonna try it also this year. Steve gase ( check out his videos in the showing off section ) does some great stuff with nutcracker. I think that's all he uses.

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Re: Sequence Question
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2015, 07:20:22 PM »
Yep... nutcracker is all i use.  it works great on the trees, the meteor tubes, arches, minitrees, coroflkes, donation sign, floods, etc.
not everything I have is RGB, but nutcracker still does the job well for the single color strings!

I have another 7 videos to post tonight or tomorrow... the great part of nutcracker is that you can easily adapt someone else's sequence to your own display -- 15 minutes is all it takes, and another hour to add your personal touch!

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Re: Sequence Question
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2015, 07:44:58 PM »
+1 Nutcracker is all I have used this year and I have both RGB and non-rgb elements.  Works great.
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Re: Sequence Question
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2015, 09:28:09 AM »
Trust me, I was a die hard LOR sequencer and I've used LSP ... But nutcracker is so much easier that I am never going back.   Despite some less than refined aspects of the user interface, sequencing rgb and non rgb  as models is the only way.    As mentioned, it's also a LOT easier to share and adapt sequences to your show.   This year I know a lot of folks were using nutcracker as an effects generator and exporting back to LOR ... But your missing the true power folks!! (Roll my eyes) ... Some day you will realize you can do it all in place and simplify your sequencing considerably.   There is certainly room for improvement, but I personally would use anything else, when this is available for free and development support is getting better all the time.   I don't miss spending  30 hours per song in LOR when I can do,it in nutcracker in 2.

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Re: Sequence Question
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2015, 11:10:40 AM »
Interesting - I have heard of folks using Nutcracker this way but have never tried it - Will have to pay closer attention to Sean's videos and see what you guys are doing here!
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Re: Sequence Question
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2015, 01:01:40 PM »
you all are going to love the xLights 4.0 interface. I alreasdy am seeing that I will not need Audacity to make manual timing marks. Everythin gyou can do in Audacity , for manual marking, is now in XL4. I will still use the Queen Mary plugins to get beat marks, bars .etc.

Dave has the view and children working in XL 4.

Define a view MINITREE, under it are actual minitrees 1-8. Click expand and collapse to go in and out. Drop an effect on Minitree and all 8 models underneath will receive the effect.

Lots and Lots of work. This never would have happened without OpenGL performance (thanks again to Dave Pitts).

Dave is a coding machine, he is solely writing the code at this point. I just brought in the other developers since the xl4 now has its own github branch.

All effects, sliders .etc. will be identical.

I have written an XL 3.x to XL 4.x converter and am testing with a WOW file and sequence.

We need to get some pizza's delivered to Dave's house. You know, feed the developer in his cave....

we are very lucky to have him on the team.

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Re: Sequence Question
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2015, 01:09:42 PM »
I'll send the red bull over by the case if need be. Can't wait to see the fruits of his labour.
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Re: Sequence Question
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2015, 02:25:40 PM »
I'll send the red bull over by the case if need be. Can't wait to see the fruits of his labour.

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Re: Sequence Question
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2015, 04:08:57 PM »
Trust me, I was a die hard LOR sequencer and I've used LSP ... But nutcracker is so much easier that I am never going back.   Despite some less than refined aspects of the user interface, sequencing rgb and non rgb  as models is the only way.    As mentioned, it's also a LOT easier to share and adapt sequences to your show.   This year I know a lot of folks were using nutcracker as an effects generator and exporting back to LOR ... But your missing the true power folks!! (Roll my eyes) ... Some day you will realize you can do it all in place and simplify your sequencing considerably.   There is certainly room for improvement, but I personally would use anything else, when this is available for free and development support is getting better all the time.   I don't miss spending  30 hours per song in LOR when I can do,it in nutcracker in 2.

+100 I did everything in NC this year and it is the first year I have over 10 sequences working.  Just amazing.

 

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