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Offline David Pitts

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Taking orders for Falcon PiCap.
« on: September 19, 2016, 08:30:08 AM »
Taking orders for Falcon PiCap.

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* Two WS2811 fused and buffered outputs.
* One Dedicated DMX/Renard/LOR RS-485 Output (Selectable)
* Real Time Clock for Standalone.
* 5V or 7-24V Input Selectable
* Completely Assembled
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Re: Taking orders for Falcon PiCap.
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2016, 08:58:26 AM »
Dave, what type of connector for the WS2811 strings? I dont see the 4 pin european type connector like on the V2 boards.
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Re: Taking orders for Falcon PiCap.
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2016, 09:38:08 AM »
3-pin right angle Euro.

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Re: Taking orders for Falcon PiCap.
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2016, 10:34:17 PM »
Would you be able to run LOR controllers off the RS-485 output and also run a few WS2811 strings from the  other outputs at the same time/off the same PiCap?  Would you need a LOR dongle attached to the PiCap to run the LOR controllers?  Thank You!

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Re: Taking orders for Falcon PiCap.
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2016, 11:32:37 PM »
Yes. No Need for LOR dongle

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Re: Taking orders for Falcon PiCap.
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2016, 07:35:32 AM »
Would you be able to run LOR controllers off the RS-485 output and also run a few WS2811 strings from the  other outputs at the same time/off the same PiCap?  Would you need a LOR dongle attached to the PiCap to run the LOR controllers?  Thank You!

The LOR output may be using DMX protocol, not the actual LOR protocol.  It would be wired correctly, but DMX (which LOR controllers understand)
« Last Edit: September 20, 2016, 09:25:00 AM by JonB256 »

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Re: Taking orders for Falcon PiCap.
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2016, 07:53:47 AM »
Is it using the DMX or the LOR protocol?  It appears that you can select between 3 separate protocols.  Why even mention the LOR protocol if you are just using DMX.  While LOR controllers can understand DMX, you cannot use the built in functions when using DMX.  It's too bad that PixelNet wasn't included in this selection.

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Re: Taking orders for Falcon PiCap.
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2016, 08:16:44 AM »
Is it using the DMX or the LOR protocol?  It appears that you can select between 3 separate protocols.  Why even mention the LOR protocol if you are just using DMX.  While LOR controllers can understand DMX, you cannot use the built in functions when using DMX.  It's too bad that PixelNet wasn't included in this selection.

The three listed outputs (LOR, Renard, DMX) all use different pinouts.

LOR uses pins 4 and 5  (also the D-Light boards)
Renard uses pins 5 and 4
DMX (and Pixelnet) use pins 1 and 2

The jumpers make that change. Since RS485 is a Differential signal, the +Data and -Data must be on the correct RJ45 pins to work.
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Re: Taking orders for Falcon PiCap.
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2016, 08:29:51 AM »
Is it using the DMX or the LOR protocol?  It appears that you can select between 3 separate protocols.  Why even mention the LOR protocol if you are just using DMX.  While LOR controllers can understand DMX, you cannot use the built in functions when using DMX.  It's too bad that PixelNet wasn't included in this selection.

The RS-485 output on this board connects to the Pi's onboard serial port, so it can actually be used for any serial output that FPP supports, which includes PixelNet, LOR, Renard, DMX, GenericSerial, and even Triks-C if the UI was updated to list the device name for the onboard serial.  There is only one serial output though, so it will only support one Pixelnet universe.
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Re: Taking orders for Falcon PiCap.
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2016, 08:36:00 AM »
Is it using the DMX or the LOR protocol?  It appears that you can select between 3 separate protocols.  Why even mention the LOR protocol if you are just using DMX.  While LOR controllers can understand DMX, you cannot use the built in functions when using DMX.  It's too bad that PixelNet wasn't included in this selection.

The three listed outputs (LOR, Renard, DMX) all use different pinouts.

LOR uses pins 4 and 5  (also the D-Light boards)
Renard uses pins 5 and 4
DMX uses pins 1 and 2

The jumpers make that change. Since RS485 is a Differential signal, the +Data and -Data must be on the correct RJ45 pins to work.

I understand that but there are 3 jumpers.  Two if them can control the position of the pins that the data lines are on so what is the purpose of the third? 

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Re: Taking orders for Falcon PiCap.
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2016, 08:38:32 AM »
The RS-485 output on this board connects to the Pi's onboard serial port, so it can actually be used for any serial output that FPP supports, which includes PixelNet, LOR, Renard, DMX, GenericSerial, and even Triks-C if the UI was updated to list the device name for the onboard serial.  There is only one serial output though, so it will only support one Pixelnet universe.

One universe is all I need for this purpose.  Is there any documentation on any of this?

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Re: Taking orders for Falcon PiCap.
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2016, 08:44:03 AM »
Captain Murdoch, if the RasPi serial port controls the output on the PiCap (independent of the WS281X out), I see that it would allow all those protocols, including Pixelnet (4096 channels). The jumpers just make sure the +data and -data are on the correct pins inside the RJ45 jack.

I'll edit my earlier post.

And, the third jumper is for a ground line.
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Re: Taking orders for Falcon PiCap.
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2016, 12:13:45 PM »
The RS-485 output on this board connects to the Pi's onboard serial port, so it can actually be used for any serial output that FPP supports, which includes PixelNet, LOR, Renard, DMX, GenericSerial, and even Triks-C if the UI was updated to list the device name for the onboard serial.  There is only one serial output though, so it will only support one Pixelnet universe.

One universe is all I need for this purpose.  Is there any documentation on any of this?

Checkout this thread  http://falconchristmas.com/forum/index.php/topic,3399.msg54720.html#msg54720 for info on the changes you need to make to disable the serial console and set the port to allow DMX and Pixelnet.  I want to get a script setup to automatically apply these changes, but that may way until v2.0.

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Re: Taking orders for Falcon PiCap.
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2016, 04:14:50 PM »
Is it using the DMX or the LOR protocol?  It appears that you can select between 3 separate protocols.  Why even mention the LOR protocol if you are just using DMX.  While LOR controllers can understand DMX, you cannot use the built in functions when using DMX.  It's too bad that PixelNet wasn't included in this selection.

The three listed outputs (LOR, Renard, DMX) all use different pinouts.

LOR uses pins 4 and 5  (also the D-Light boards)
Renard uses pins 5 and 4
DMX (and Pixelnet) use pins 1 and 2

The jumpers make that change. Since RS485 is a Differential signal, the +Data and -Data must be on the correct RJ45 pins to work.


Thank you for the explanation, this is a versatile board, very excited to use it!

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Re: Taking orders for Falcon PiCap.
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2016, 10:15:52 PM »
I have two questions about this cap, maybe I missed this information.
1. What version of RPi is it compatible with?
2. Can the cap power the RPi?

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