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Title: 4-String Differential SmartReceiver v2.01 Board
Post by: breese on August 02, 2022, 09:20:27 AM
I just received my first differential smart receiver v2.01 board.
Is there a manual for this?
I am going to be using it on my Falcon F16V4 1.01 board.
Just want to be sure I have the switches all setup correctly

Title: Re: 4-String Differential SmartReceiver v2.01 Board
Post by: BrightLights on August 02, 2022, 09:27:31 AM
Here is the linked to the manual

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qBUcGJ9xnqm_C_qk9IyDmEnB9QS1dYYMui2zCHs4WVg/edit


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Title: Re: 4-String Differential SmartReceiver v2.01 Board
Post by: breese on August 02, 2022, 09:55:19 AM
Thank you!
Title: Re: 4-String Differential SmartReceiver v2.01 Board
Post by: breese on August 02, 2022, 02:58:38 PM
I see there is a configuration for Smart Mode or Dumb Mode.
When and why would I want to run one of these?
Title: Re: 4-String Differential SmartReceiver v2.01 Board
Post by: Poporacer on August 02, 2022, 03:35:58 PM
Quote from: breese on August 02, 2022, 02:58:38 PMI see there is a configuration for Smart Mode
That is if you want to daisy chain the remotes, but the ports on each of the remotes will share the total pixel allotment for that port.

Quote from: breese on August 02, 2022, 02:58:38 PMor Dumb Mode.
Actually Normal Mode, but if you are not daisy chaining them, then you use Normal Mode.

Quote from: breese on August 02, 2022, 02:58:38 PMWhen and why would I want to run one of these?
If you have several props in somewhat remote locations without high pixel counts, then daisy chaining them might be a good option.
Title: Re: 4-String Differential SmartReceiver v2.01 Board
Post by: JonD on August 02, 2022, 03:56:37 PM
I have the 2.0 version of smart receivers, but I had all sorts of issues when using normal mode off of a F16v4.  I would get ghosting from other ports and had to put them in smart mode to correct the issue.  I let David know about it, but it was Christmas and I had a work around.  Maybe firmware and new 2.1 version have corrected that by now.  If you use native mode and notice issues, you might be able to correct by changing to smart mode. 
Title: Re: 4-String Differential SmartReceiver v2.01 Board
Post by: csmith on August 04, 2022, 06:16:27 AM
I like the new blue receivers I just received, especially the smaller green Phoenix connectors. 

But... between the basic instructions on the back of the board and the referenced document above I'm still a bit fuzzy on setup.

The 4 DIP switches on the board come from the factory all in the 'ON' position.

Do we need to ever touch these?  What do the do?
Title: Re: 4-String Differential SmartReceiver v2.01 Board
Post by: dkulp on August 04, 2022, 06:56:09 AM
They are for the terminating resistors.   They should be ON for the last receiver in the chain and off for the others.   
Title: Re: 4-String Differential SmartReceiver v2.01 Board
Post by: HuskerInTexas53 on August 26, 2022, 03:51:41 PM
I could have sworn I watched a video somewhere on the v2.01, setting it up, etc; but if I did I can't find it again.  Do you know if one exists, or is the google doc the only thing?  Maybe it is so simple, a video isn't considered needed.

Thanks for all you do!
Title: Re: 4-String Differential SmartReceiver v2.01 Board
Post by: Doucet on August 27, 2022, 12:40:47 PM
Did you figure out how to set up the v2.01 Smart Receivers. I can't find anything on it.
Title: Re: 4-String Differential SmartReceiver v2.01 Board
Post by: JonD on August 28, 2022, 06:23:03 AM
Quote from: Doucet on August 27, 2022, 12:40:47 PMDid you figure out how to set up the v2.01 Smart Receivers. I can't find anything on it.

The smart receiver directions are at the bottom of the F16V4 manual.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1449zGk1HEiQjcu6e98ebWnFBMFKUiXaFzis9QGAnfsk/edit (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1449zGk1HEiQjcu6e98ebWnFBMFKUiXaFzis9QGAnfsk/edit)
Title: Re: 4-String Differential SmartReceiver v2.01 Board
Post by: HuskerInTexas53 on September 14, 2022, 03:50:10 PM
I have two of the 2.01 smart receivers, connected to a F16V4.  All firmware has been updated.  When I run the smart receivers separately in the dumb mode (0), they appear to work fine (including tests and sequences).  However, when I attempt to daisy chain them (one set to "A" and the other set to "B") with terminator switches set appropriately, I get nothing.  Testing through the F16V4 doesn't even work.  I feel like I am close but missing something little.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: 4-String Differential SmartReceiver v2.01 Board
Post by: JonD on September 14, 2022, 04:06:17 PM
Did you hit the plus button and convert the adapter to 17a and 17b?  A print screen of your config would be helpful.

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Title: Re: 4-String Differential SmartReceiver v2.01 Board
Post by: HuskerInTexas53 on September 14, 2022, 05:35:31 PM
You bet;  here is my output settings screen.  I did indeed switch the adaptor to "a" and "b" (I assume you mean turning the wheel to a or b.
Title: Re: 4-String Differential SmartReceiver v2.01 Board
Post by: JonD on September 14, 2022, 06:02:08 PM
That looks good.

Confirming that you are not using any expansion boards, and you are just trying to use the two red receiver ports on the right side of the controller.  The Smart Receiver A needs to be plugged into the very top port on the right side of the controller (RCVR1).  Smart Receiver B should be plugged into the second network port on Smart Receiver A.   Nothing should be plugged into the second "RCVR2" port or "DMX" port on the controller.   Smart Receiver A should NOT be terminated, Smart Receiver B SHOULD be terminated (the last device in the chain).  Smart Receiver A will be ports 17a,18a,19a, and 20a  Smart Receiver B will be ports 17b,18b,19b, and 20b.

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Also, that you have configured the controller to the correct configuration from the main menu.

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Title: Re: 4-String Differential SmartReceiver v2.01 Board
Post by: HuskerInTexas53 on September 14, 2022, 07:58:40 PM
Correct, I am not using any expansion boards.  I don't think it makes any difference, but I have just one receiver path plugged in for now (17, 18, 19, 20).

All lights work when I use the receiver test button.

Title: Re: 4-String Differential SmartReceiver v2.01 Board
Post by: HuskerInTexas53 on September 14, 2022, 08:11:56 PM
Found it!!  Bad cable between my F16V4 and smart receiver.  Swapped it out with new cable, and everything is working!

Sorry for the bother but thank you so much for checking.  If nothing else, it made me groom and triple-check my entire system.
Title: Re: 4-String Differential SmartReceiver v2.01 Board
Post by: JonD on September 15, 2022, 03:57:09 AM
Quote from: HuskerInTexas53 on September 14, 2022, 07:58:40 PMI don't think it makes any difference, but I have just one receiver path plugged in for now (17, 18, 19, 20).
If they are in zero mode (Normal Mode/Native Mode) the port numbers would be 17,18,19, and 20.  If they are in Smart Receiver A mode the port numbers would be 17a,18a,19a, and 20a.  If they are in Smart Receiver B mode the port numbers would be 17b,18b,19b, and 20b.  The last device in any chain, needs to be terminated.  Termination basically absorbs the remaining energy in the wire, preventing it from turning around and going back (Reflection).  If the data tries to return and head backwards, it can cause ghosting and other undesired results. 

If you are plugging the second Smart Receiver into controller port (RCVR2)... both Smart Receivers should be placed in A mode, and both should be terminated as they are the only device in the chain.  The one plugged into RCVR1 port would be ports 17a,18a,19a, and 20a  The second plugged into RCVR2 would be ports 21a,22a,23a, and 24a.

The onboard RCVR1 and RCVR2 port numbers will vary depending how many expansion boards you installed.  For example, if you are using one expansion board, RCVR1 will be assigned ports 33,34,35, and 36, instead of 17,18,19, and 20.

Glad it was just a bad cable.
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