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WS2812B Pixels

Started by jem5136, January 21, 2022, 08:00:12 AM

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jem5136

I'm getting started with designing some new props and updating some current props for the 2022 season and I found these pixels. I've seen them in other projects before and I think they look awesome, but I'm not sure if they're supported by the Falcon controllers. 

I want to add some Z-Trees this year and replace the pixels on my star with these, they are WS2812B pixels. I'll be using an F16V3 or F48. Does anyone know if they are supported? I know both controllers are compatible with WS2812 pixels, but I've never seen the WS2812B. If they are supported, does anyone have experience with these pixels? Are the worth the time and money or should I stick with the traditional 12mm pixels? 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003689124702.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.59b3fa58nxGwOn&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.169870.0&scm_id=1007.13339.169870.0&scm-url=1007.13339.169870.0&pvid=d208734c-dbcd-4718-ad17-0c0041f3602c&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller,scm-url:1007.13339.169870.0,pvid:d208734c-dbcd-4718-ad17-0c0041f3602c,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238111%231996&pdp_ext_f=%257B%2522sku_id%2522%253A%252212000026813211280%2522%252C%2522sceneId%2522%253A%25223339%2522%257D&pdp_pi=-1%253B105.0%253B-1%253B-1%2540salePrice%253BUSD%253Brecommend-recommend 

pixelpuppy

Yes.

All ws281x chips use the same protocol.   I think on the Falcon you tell it 2811 but it really should just say 281x
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Kyle007

Those pixels look pretty neat. Makes me wonder about using them permanently along a roofline because they look pretty discreet. Do you think you run the 100m without power injection? No way right?

jem5136

Quote from: Kyle007 on January 26, 2022, 07:02:54 PMThose pixels look pretty neat. Makes me wonder about using them permanently along a roofline because they look pretty discreet. Do you think you run the 100m without power injection? No way right?


I was thinking the same thing, the only issue is they're 5V (I couldn't find a 12V option). It recommends to inject power every 50 pixels. I wouldn't mind getting some and playing around with them for other applications as well- wouldn't mind putting them on the Christmas tree next year either.

JonB256

Those would look great wrapped on my 10 small wire-frame Reindeer (still white AC incandescent), but the IP65 rating concerns me.

If anyone has tried them exposed to full rain and sun, I'd love to hear how they did.

(I did send an email to Ray Wu (ray@rita-light.com) asking about the IP65 rating)
Long time Falcon, FPP and xLights user

jem5136

Quote from: JonB256 on January 27, 2022, 09:36:45 AMThose would look great wrapped on my 10 small wire-frame Reindeer (still white AC incandescent), but the IP65 rating concerns me.

If anyone has tried them exposed to full rain and sun, I'd love to hear how they did.

(I did send an email to Ray Wu (ray@rita-light.com) asking about the IP65 rating)
This also concerns me. Let us know what he says.

JonB256

Sadly, Ray's response was "use indoor only"

Oh, well.
Long time Falcon, FPP and xLights user

Sawdust

#7
Quote from: JonB256 on January 30, 2022, 12:39:00 PMSadly, Ray's response was "use indoor only"

Oh, well.


Hmmmm....why is Ray changing the IP65 definition.  IP65 is dust tight, so sealed, and low pressure jetted water.  So  per Ray you can use in a your shower or in a car wash but not outdoor???   If indoor only, then not IP65, maybe IP60 or IP61.

pixelpuppy

#8
outdoor use isn't only about Ingress Protection.   It also has to do with UV resistance and wind/vibration durability

I have a couple strings of these and they are neat little pixels but they are a bit delicate
I can easily see how they would be ok getting wet but not hold up outdoors in sun and wind
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pixelpuppy

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Sawdust

Quote from: pixelpuppy on January 30, 2022, 05:08:18 PMoutdoor use isn't only about Ingress Protection.   It also has to do with UV resistance and wind/vibration durability

I have a couple stings of these and they are neat little pixels but they are a bit delicate
I can easily see how they would be ok getting wet but not hold up outdoors in sun and wind

Under specification tab he states "Not Waterproof"

tbone321

IP 65 is NOT waterproof.  That's IP 67 and up.

jem5136

Dang, there is no way I can completely "weather proof" the props I'm wanting to use, these pixels would be perfect for the prop. I guess I'll continue my search. i still Might get a string just to play around with though- they looks like fun lol

Sawdust

Quote from: tbone321 on January 30, 2022, 09:39:02 PMIP 65 is NOT waterproof.  That's IP 67 and up.

IP65 = Protected from low pressure water jets from any direction. 
This is waterproof in my area.

pixelpuppy

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Quote from: Sawdust on January 31, 2022, 09:46:57 AMIP65 = Protected from low pressure water jets from any direction. 
This is waterproof in my area.
You are confusing the difference between water-resistant and waterproof.

Quotedefinitions of waterproof, water-resistant, and water-repellent, as given by the Oxford English Dictionary:

  • Water-resistant: able to resist the penetration of water to some degree but not entirely
  • Water-repellent: not easily penetrated by water, especially as a result of being treated for such a purpose with a surface coating
  • Waterproof: impervious to water
IP65 is not impervious to water and therefore not waterproof.
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