GE Insane Cane Bars not following submodel in Xlights.

[Suikoden]

I have four new GE insane canes and I tried to follow this video to create and use submodels in Xlights to make the bars effect follow the bend of the props. But instead of following the bend the bars just act like the submodels aren't there. I am seeing the wrong behavior in both the previews and in my display. I can't see what I am doing wrong compared to his tutorial but obviously I am missing something.

[Poporacer]

I can't see what I am doing wrong compared to his tutorial but obviously I am missing something.

We can't see what you are doing wrong either since you provided us with absolutely no information. How about some screenshots of:
Your different submodels
Your Sequencer page, etc.

[Suikoden]

Sure thing, sorry I didn't even really know where to start looking for problems so I didn't provide screenshots till I knew what might be helpful.

[Poporacer]

sorry I didn't even really know where to start looking for problems so I didn't provide screenshots till I knew what might be helpful.

No worries.

So what model are you trying to get the effect to play on? I wasn't sure with all the canes and effects shown. Simplify it so we can see what you are doing and can tell what the problem is.
It almost looks like you are applying the effect to a group?
You didn't post your submodel and it doesn't look like you applied the effect to the submodel you created.

He didn't really go over how you are suppose to apply the effect. If you look at the beginning of the video, he is applying the effect to the rows and vertical submodels, NOT the actual Candy Cane.

[Suikoden]

I created a group called UP Trial containing submodels that follow the curve of the prop. I can see that the pixels are correctly highlighted in order to follow the curve but they instead light on both the left and right. I have included a screenshot of this group. It sounds like you are saying I can't apply an effect to a group? If there is something different I need to show to simplify my confusion please let me know.

[Poporacer]

I created a group called UP Trial containing submodels that follow the curve of the prop.

So you DIDN"T follow the video. I would suggest following the video for one cane first to understand how it is supposed to work. I am not even sure why you created a group? Can you explain your intent/purpose of this group?

I have included a screenshot of this group. It sounds like you are saying I can't apply an effect to a group?

No, but if you are applying effect to a group, there are render considerations that you have to take into account depending on what the result is that you want. You are going to advanced sequencing without learning the basics.

If there is something different I need to show to simplify my confusion please let me know.

You stated that you created the Group UP Trial so where is the effect applied to that group? I do not see any? I don't even see your Up Trial group on your sequencer tab...You are missing several basic concepts here.

[Suikoden]

Sorry I mistakenly uploaded a screenshot from a different test sequence. My intent was to create Group UP Trial including one candy cane prop then apply the same effects to the other three. This is a proper screenshot from the sequence including this test effort. The preview shows the wrong behavior.

[Poporacer]

My intent was to create Group UP Trial including one candy cane prop

And did the video show him making a group to do that? Why are you creating a group?
Like I asked before, WHY do you think you need to make a group?
I think you are trying to overly complicate it. Follow the video, don't add your own spin on it until you understand how it works.

then apply the same effects to the other three

So you were going to make 4 groups?
It looks like you made 19 different SubModels for just one candy cane? I don't remember that in the video.

The preview shows the wrong behavior.

I wouldn't expect it to show the same behavior if you didn't build it the same way.

[Suikoden]

When I added my model from the download option it included all the submodels Up and Down but broke them down into discrete submodels. My intention was to group those submodels into a collection that would allow me to apply the effect like the video. I didn't follow the creation of the submodels in the video because it looked like someone had done that work for me. 

There might not be a way to use those imported submodels the way I wanted but that was the reason I made the group. I intended to get one cane working and apply the effect to the others.

[Poporacer]

When I added my model from the download option it included all the submodels Up and Down but broke them down into discrete submodels.

My point is that IF you are following a video on how to do something, you have to do it the EXACT way they did to get the same results. Get it to work the way it does in the video first, then try to expand on the method.
It is great that the vendor supplied sub models, but they are individual, so it won't work exactly as the video.

My intention was to group those submodels into a collection that would allow me to apply the effect like the video

Why not use the group that the vendor already created instead of creating a duplicate of what is already existing?

I didn't follow the creation of the submodels in the video because it looked like someone had done that work for me.

But they were created differently, effects on groups act totally different than on individual sub models or props.

There might not be a way to use those imported submodels the way I wanted

Yes, there is, but you need to understand how things actually work if you want to get things to look the way you want.

Like I mentioned, applying effects to groups act differently and you might have to change the Render Style
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[Suikoden]

Everything is working correctly now. Thanks for your help, I figured out my issue was just the render style. I understand your point about learning from the ground up.