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new F48v4-NS problems with direct Ethernet connection

Started by BirdingPix, April 10, 2023, 10:20:56 AM

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BirdingPix

I have just received my brand new F84V4-NS (blue; build 24) from Falcon, and I am having issues with it's Ethernet connection over direct wire to 10/100/1000 auto-sensing Ethernet switches.  I don't use WiFi on any of my Falcon or FPP devices... everything is direct wired over Ethernet. 

The new F48V4-NS simply won't connect over Ethernet wire UNLESS I plug it into a 10/100 Ethernet Switch.
My F16V3 and RaspberryPi (FPP) have always been connected without issues to my existing 10/100/1000 Ethernet Switch on my Light Show board.   I simply went to add my new F48V4 and it just sits there with its Ethernet connector blinking as follows: BOTH green and orange connector LEDs turn on steady for about 1 second and then both go off, and then in a little over another second, they both turn on steady again for about 1 second; this repeats with a cycle of a little over 2 seconds forever.

I have tried 4 different brands of 10/100/1000 ethernet switches and the F48V4 acts the same with all... same problem.  Once I connect the F48V4 to any 10/100 ethernet switch, it immediately connects as expected at 100 Mbps.

Is there some problem with the F48v4-NS ethernet port with regard to choosing its port speed when connected to a 10/100/1000 auto-speed detecting switch?? 

(The way I was able to disable the F48V4 factory-default WiFi =ON was to finally connect to it over 10/100 switch and log into into browser user interface and turn off WiFi.)

Any ideas?

Dave


JonB256

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Check your cable? Gigabit expects all 8 wires to have good, correct conductivity. 100mb and 10mb only needs 4 wires (the Orange pair and Green pair).
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camguy52

I have had similar issues with my new F48V4-NS.  I changed out my older TP-Link 5 port switch for a newer Netgear 5 port switch and the problem seemed to go away.

Hope this helps,

Doug

tbone321

That looks like a bug in the F48's firmware.  It appears to be negotiating for a gigabit connection but is not capable of communicating at that speed.  The older 10/100 switches can't go that high and stop the negotiation at 100 where it has no problem.

BirdingPix

Of course  have tried lots of 'known-good' Ethernet cables... and also 4 different brands of 10/100/1000 Ethernet Switches (Netgear, tp-link, Linksys, Ubiquiti).  The Falcon F16V3 (v2.59) connects every time to the Gigabit dumb switches, whereas the F48V4-NS (blue hardware v1.01) (build 24) has never connected and exhibits the above described problem. 

In the meantime, I have swapped out my previously used 10/100/1000 Ethernet switch for a old 10/100 switch and the F48V4 connects immediately.

So it sure seems like a firmware issue with the F48V4, which most likely can be fixed with a new firmware release. 


Dave

JonD

Most smart/managed switches have the ability to force certain ports to connect at slower speeds.  If your switch is somewhat intelligent, you might be able to configure it to only allow a 100mb connection on the port the NS was connect to as a workaround.  Does sound like a firmware or software fix may be needed to resolve the issue.

k6ccc

Quote from: JonD on April 12, 2023, 10:07:15 AMMost smart/managed switches have the ability to force certain ports to connect at slower speeds.  If your switch is somewhat intelligent, you might be able to configure it to only allow a 100mb connection on the port the NS was connect to as a workaround.  Does sound like a firmware or software fix may be needed to resolve the issue.

Unfortunately most dumb switches do not have that capability...
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TravisSlaughter

Same issue here been working on it for a few days and noticed no data lights from the ethernet are even lighting. using a TP Link 8 port Switch(10/100). Should I try my older 5 port or a different one all together. The only way I can connect is through wifi even the Pi 4 picks it up through multi sync but will not transmitt over wifi. Any ideas?

JonD

I do not have a NS version and can't help you there.  Ethernet wise to force a 100mb connection, you would either need an old switch/hub that only supports 100mb connections, or a "smart" or "managed" switch that you can down grade the port to 100mb via software interface.  There have been some rare reports of the Ethernet ports going bad, and a new switch is not going to resolve that issue.  You could make yourself a cross over cable and connect it directly to a computer and force the computers nic down to 100mb.  If the port lit up that would be a good sign it is a switch issue.

darylc


TravisSlaughter

Quote from: darylc on November 21, 2023, 04:27:44 AMMake sure you are running version 27 on the NS
I just dropped down to 26 build because build 27 was the issue


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TravisSlaughter

Quote from: JonD on November 21, 2023, 03:52:56 AMI do not have a NS version and can't help you there.  Ethernet wise to force a 100mb connection, you would either need an old switch/hub that only supports 100mb connections, or a "smart" or "managed" switch that you can down grade the port to 100mb via software interface.  There have been some rare reports of the Ethernet ports going bad, and a new switch is not going to resolve that issue.  You could make yourself a cross over cable and connect it directly to a computer and force the computers nic down to 100mb.  If the port lit up that would be a good sign it is a switch issue.
It is a 10/100 hub


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TravisSlaughter

Quote from: TravisSlaughter on November 21, 2023, 11:53:17 AM
Quote from: JonD on November 21, 2023, 03:52:56 AMI do not have a NS version and can't help you there.  Ethernet wise to force a 100mb connection, you would either need an old switch/hub that only supports 100mb connections, or a "smart" or "managed" switch that you can down grade the port to 100mb via software interface.  There have been some rare reports of the Ethernet ports going bad, and a new switch is not going to resolve that issue.  You could make yourself a cross over cable and connect it directly to a computer and force the computers nic down to 100mb.  If the port lit up that would be a good sign it is a switch issue.
It is a 10/100 hub


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