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Title: Sending data long distance
Post by: YouLiTTY on January 08, 2019, 06:13:20 AM
Can someone help me with the proper soloution for the best location of my falcon controller and how to get my data lines to the strips with proper voltage
Im installing 20 segments consisting of 450 leds ( 9,000 LEDs total  )

In simple form, lights are going in channels that run along side of bowling lanes. There is 40 lanes total but only 20 channels for lights, so every second lane will have 450 LEDs in a series ( 20 lanes total ) . So I'm thinking the falcon should be centralized and the data lines should just Branch out like a tree? But I'm definitely going to have voltage drop. Falcon located at bowling lane 20, to the first strip on bowling lane 1. The distance between "falcon (lane 20)" and light "strip#1 (lane 1)"  is around 100 feet. Then from "falcon(lane 20)" to "strip#2 (lane 3)" is shorter. Then falcon to lane 5 is alot shorter .
Can someone helpe with the best procedure for this ? 
 
Title: Re: Sending data long distance
Post by: allknowing2012 on January 08, 2019, 06:38:38 AM
No expert here but I would think multiple F-Amps plus a power chase down the line to inject into the strips at atleast 150 and 300 and 450. (assuming 12v).
Title: Re: Sending data long distance
Post by: JonB256 on January 08, 2019, 06:53:03 AM
The Falcon F48 would be a better solution because it would require fewer F-Amps.

A sketch would be A LOT BETTER than your description. (even if hand drawn and picture with phone)
Title: Re: Sending data long distance
Post by: pixelpuppy on January 08, 2019, 07:23:24 AM
OR.....

Get 10 PiZero's feeding two strips each.  You could even put a PiZero directly on the start of each of the 20 strips and not have any data runs between lanes
Title: Re: Sending data long distance
Post by: mararunr on January 08, 2019, 09:43:23 AM
OR.....

Get 10 PiZero's feeding two strips each.  You could even put a PiZero directly on the start of each of the 20 strips and not have any data runs between lanes

+1 for this idea - 10 PiZero Ws is $50

I do something similar in my home with our crown molding and kick plate lighting in our home.  Multiple Pi Zeroes, each one where the lights are.
Title: Re: Sending data long distance
Post by: YouLiTTY on January 08, 2019, 09:17:55 PM
OR.....

Get 10 PiZero's feeding two strips each.  You could even put a PiZero directly on the start of each of the 20 strips and not have any data runs between lanes

Ok so 1 per lane or I can pair them . Maybe you can helpe further on this procedure.
I have ordered these parts
F16V3 Pixel Controller - Ready to Run - Pigtail Type : xConnect (Falcon/HC), Voltage : 5V
And
F16v2/F16V3 Expansion Board with ribbon cable   
Should I be using these or something else .
Title: Re: Sending data long distance
Post by: YouLiTTY on January 08, 2019, 09:27:36 PM
OR.....

Get 10 PiZero's feeding two strips each.  You could even put a PiZero directly on the start of each of the 20 strips and not have any data runs between lanes

I'm trying to post my digram but it won't let me . Pixelpuppy can you email me so I can send you diagram ? youlitty@gmail.com
Would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Sending data long distance
Post by: pixelpuppy on January 09, 2019, 06:08:57 AM
My suggestion was more for the Hobby/DIY perspective.  If this is a commercial/business application you would be better to go with the Falcon solution
Title: Re: Sending data long distance
Post by: YouLiTTY on January 09, 2019, 06:45:57 AM
My suggestion was more for the Hobby/DIY perspective.  If this is a commercial/business application you would be better to go with the Falcon solution

Thanks again for your help . I'm sorry So many questions, still the newb. Lol
Yes it's a commercial business application.
Can you give me a better idea on the parts I need ?   And you say going with  F16V3 and expansion is the best way to do it ? Thats alot of wire 😥😥 and I'm using alot of wire for all the power injections for the strips as is ... .
Title: Re: Sending data long distance
Post by: YouLiTTY on January 09, 2019, 07:05:33 AM
My suggestion was more for the Hobby/DIY perspective.  If this is a commercial/business application you would be better to go with the Falcon solution

Anything to offer on my light wiring .
The series of lights is 50 feet long .  3 full rolls
I've made the lights into 4 small strips.
Using a 5v 80a supply.
Power to start of strip.
4 wire to the center of the first 2 strips.
And power to the end of strip 2.
Then using the same power supply I will power half of the next lanes lights, using the same method
Then the back half of both lanes will be powered the same way using a second 5v 80a supply.
The front power supplies will only power the first half of the 2 lanes to avoid bridging the power. And same with the back will only power the back half of the 2 lanes.