Falcon Christmas

Falcon Christmas => Falcon F-16 Pixelnet Controller => Topic started by: Jeffl on January 27, 2015, 08:13:11 PM

Title: Extension cable
Post by: Jeffl on January 27, 2015, 08:13:11 PM
What extension cable does everyone use to run between the F16 and strings?
Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: David Pitts on January 27, 2015, 08:16:10 PM
I use 3 conductor cable I get from Ray.
Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: jnealand on January 27, 2015, 08:19:32 PM
+1  I have some friends that tried other products, like landscape wire and had problems.
Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: Jeffl on January 27, 2015, 08:26:29 PM
Can you post a link for the handicap just so I find the correct one? :)
Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: Jeffl on January 27, 2015, 08:46:31 PM
Like this?

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/100m-roll-3core-white-PVC-covered-cable-18AWG/701799_2027766857.html
Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: David Pitts on January 27, 2015, 08:49:54 PM
No. I use this.
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/100m-lot-3pin-cable-for-RGB-color-led-strip-module-20AWG-100m-long/701799_425559947.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/100m-lot-3pin-cable-for-RGB-color-led-strip-module-20AWG-100m-long/701799_425559947.html)
Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: bcstuff on January 27, 2015, 09:42:46 PM
Like this?

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/100m-roll-3core-white-PVC-covered-cable-18AWG/701799_2027766857.html

If I was doing it again, I would buy this and cut off 1 end for the pigtail for the lights and use the other end as the extension cord from the F16.
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/3m-10feet-4-core-waterproof-extension-cable-one-end-with-male-the-other-end-with-female/701799_541169977.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/3m-10feet-4-core-waterproof-extension-cable-one-end-with-male-the-other-end-with-female/701799_541169977.html)

Instead I bought just pigtails separate and soldered on my own wire which was alarm cable.  The wire turned out to be CCA and it has fewer strands per wire so it is a little stiffer, but I am using it anyway since the distance is only 8 feet.
Here is what I bought and don't recommend:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/18-4-Control-Security-Burglar-Alarm-Cable-500ft-Stranded-Wire-White-CL2-rated-/251347400080?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a8578f590 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/18-4-Control-Security-Burglar-Alarm-Cable-500ft-Stranded-Wire-White-CL2-rated-/251347400080?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a8578f590)
Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: algerdes on January 27, 2015, 11:00:21 PM

If I was doing it again, I would buy this and cut off 1 end for the pigtail for the lights and use the other end as the extension cord from the F16.

This is exactly what we did with our second tree.  Purchased the 10' extensions from DIYLEDExpress (http://www.diyledexpress.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_39&products_id=199), cut the first 18" off for the pigtail, and used the other 8' 6" out to the light strings.  Worked great!
Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: Steve Gase on January 27, 2015, 11:11:16 PM
I have used the "alarm wire", and also the 3wire used in the pixels -- soldering the connectors each time.
Finally, I came to the conclusion that buying the pre-made extensions saved a lot of time... duh!

Some people had complained about quality of the extensions and high rate of failure and I was hesitant.  Still I got 50 and had no problems whatsoever.

I also like the idea of using extensions (5' or 10') that are cut and used as pigtails.  I prefer to attach the short end to the controller (instead of the long end -- so that I don't have an awkward bundle of cables to carry and store with the controller.)  the long end I solder to the string of lights.   I tin the short end, btw.
Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: bcstuff on January 27, 2015, 11:18:34 PM
This is exactly what we did with our second tree.  Purchased the 10' extensions from DIYLEDExpress (http://www.diyledexpress.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_39&products_id=199), cut the first 18" off for the pigtail, and used the other 8' 6" out to the light strings.  Worked great!

FYI,
I like to bring up that the waterproof plugs at DIYLEDexpress are a different size. 
I didn't know until Steve Gase pointed this out to me.
The waterproof plugs from DIYLEDexpress are 12mm. The ones I have purchased from Ray in white and that are commonly used on DLA are 13.5mm. (there is actually a third size which is 15mm but I haven't come across anyone using those)

Not that there is anything wrong with different sizing but considering everything I have currently is 13.5mm it is nice to know.

Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: Steve Gase on January 27, 2015, 11:24:07 PM
This is exactly what we did with our second tree.  Purchased the 10' extensions from DIYLEDExpress (http://www.diyledexpress.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_39&products_id=199), cut the first 18" off for the pigtail, and used the other 8' 6" out to the light strings.  Worked great!

FYI,
I like to bring up that the waterproof plugs at DIYLEDexpress are a different size. 
I didn't know until Steve Gase pointed this out to me.
The waterproof plugs from DIYLEDexpress are 12mm. The ones I have purchased from Ray in white and that are commonly used on DLA are 13.5mm. (there is actually a third size which is 15mm but I haven't come across anyone using those)

Not that there is anything wrong with different sizing but considering everything I have currently is 13.5mm it is nice to know.
The green extensions -- used with pixabulbs -- use the 12mm connectors.
The link you provided is for a white extension...  I would not assume that these cables are also 12mm -- you should ask.
Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: bcstuff on January 28, 2015, 01:53:23 AM
The green extensions -- used with pixabulbs -- use the 12mm connectors.
The link you provided is for a white extension...  I would not assume that these cables are also 12mm -- you should ask.

From the main page of 3 wire connectors on DIY LED Express:
http://www.diyledexpress.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=37_39&zenid=0e517a029ed766112926a5e21843ba5c (http://www.diyledexpress.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=37_39&zenid=0e517a029ed766112926a5e21843ba5c)

Quote from: DIY LED Express
3 Wire Products
Please note, all waterproof connectors have the same dimensions as pictured here.

(http://www.diyledexpress.com/images/Connector%20Male(Small).jpg) (http://www.diyledexpress.com/images/Connector%20Female(small).jpg)
Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: corey872 on January 28, 2015, 05:39:17 PM
I've been running bulk Cat5 STP between most everything I have.  Typically bundle 4 wires for power, 3 wires+shield wire for ground and send data one one remaining wire.  Not sure where it stands cost wise, but 12-14 cents/foot it seems pretty good on the dollars per unit of copper side.
Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: algerdes on March 27, 2015, 07:42:29 PM
This is exactly what we did with our second tree.  Purchased the 10' extensions from DIYLEDExpress (http://www.diyledexpress.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_39&products_id=199), cut the first 18" off for the pigtail, and used the other 8' 6" out to the light strings.  Worked great!

FYI,
I like to bring up that the waterproof plugs at DIYLEDexpress are a different size. 
I didn't know until Steve Gase pointed this out to me.
The waterproof plugs from DIYLEDexpress are 12mm. The ones I have purchased from Ray in white and that are commonly used on DLA are 13.5mm. (there is actually a third size which is 15mm but I haven't come across anyone using those)

Not that there is anything wrong with different sizing but considering everything I have currently is 13.5mm it is nice to know.
The green extensions -- used with pixabulbs -- use the 12mm connectors.
The link you provided is for a white extension...  I would not assume that these cables are also 12mm -- you should ask.

That one got me last year.  The 10' white extension cords that we made pigtails and then wired the rest to the strips worked without a problem.  We made sure we used the green connectors when connecting to the PixaBulbs. 
Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: danj on March 28, 2015, 08:04:48 PM
One of the things that totally ate my lunch last year was soldering all my wires/connectors for my megatree.   It takes a long time to solder all those small gauge wires!!!  My two cents.  I didn't realize there were premade male/female connector wiring sets like this....  I now plan to purchase these instead of soldering for hours on end....
Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: Steve Gase on March 28, 2015, 10:54:50 PM

If I was doing it again, I would buy this and cut off 1 end for the pigtail for the lights and use the other end as the extension cord from the F16.
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/3m-10feet-4-core-waterproof-extension-cable-one-end-with-male-the-other-end-with-female/701799_541169977.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/3m-10feet-4-core-waterproof-extension-cable-one-end-with-male-the-other-end-with-female/701799_541169977.html)


I've tried a bunch of things, 3-wire colored like david, and the pre-cut pigtails...

but the best IMO is the extensions like that discribed by bcstuff.

10ft from controller to first pixel is a good length. 

I cut the extension about 2ft from the female end -- this I screw down into the controller.  the other 8ft male end I solder onto the lights.  at the end of the season I keep the female part connected to the controller and the shorter cables makes it easier to store.
Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: algerdes on March 29, 2015, 07:38:28 AM
Interesting.  You say you put the male part on the controller and the female part on the lights?  It is usually the other way around.  Do you have any specific reason? (Enquiring minds want to know. :) )
Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: Steve Gase on March 29, 2015, 07:42:39 AM
Interesting.  You say you put the male part on the controller and the female part on the lights?  It is usually the other way around.  Do you have any specific reason? (Enquiring minds want to know. :) )
Other than getting my male and female parts mixed up...  yes, i'm VERY confused. I misspoke (mistyped).
Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: algerdes on March 29, 2015, 08:16:58 AM
Not a problem.  More of a "safety" check than anything else.   :-\
Title: Re: Extension cable
Post by: Jeffl on July 08, 2015, 09:20:23 PM
Can you buy the 12mm connectors direct if DIYLedExpress is out of stock?