Falcon Christmas

Falcon Christmas => F8-Distro => Topic started by: goverland on March 03, 2017, 05:07:58 PM

Title: Weather-resistant enclosure
Post by: goverland on March 03, 2017, 05:07:58 PM
This is my first year and planning on placing one on the top of my 16x50 tree.  Looking for suggestions on an appropriate enclosure for just the F8-Distro?

Thanks,
Greg
Title: Re: Weather-resistant enclosure
Post by: jnealand on March 03, 2017, 07:11:05 PM
Most people would not put any connections, or controllers in a mostly inaccessible location like the top of a tree.  Unfortunatley things happen and the last place you want to be fixing things during show season is at the top of a tree or on a roof.  You probably ought to explain what you are trying to do and ask for suggestions on what works best.  I suspect that 99+% of folks with mega trees put their power distros at the bottom of the tree near the center pole.
Title: Re: Weather-resistant enclosure
Post by: goverland on March 03, 2017, 08:23:12 PM
Splitting the power injection to strings 1-2, 3-4...15-16 with tees.  So eight injections into the 16 strings.  Injecting at the top will allow me to just use the F8-Distro while keeping the power distribution wire lengths to a minimum.  While not convenient, my tree will only be 9.5' and only 180 so if I have to it is still accessable.  I was thinking the following might be a good fit.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Waterproof-Junction-Box-Underground-Plastic-Electric-Enclosure-Case-IP66-3-WAY/351853730256?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3D329643b32bb44a93bf7e6600833b762d%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D132052839799
Title: Re: Weather-resistant enclosure
Post by: mtosh on March 04, 2017, 07:51:01 AM
That box looks too tight of a space for my liking. With that tall of a tree you're really only saving like 50-60 foot of wire max ... seems like a huge hassle to try to save such little wire. Just one opinion though. I do like the box but not for 7-8 connections.


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Title: Re: Weather-resistant enclosure
Post by: jnealand on March 04, 2017, 09:30:06 AM
There is no reason you cannot inject power at the end of the downward strings or you could even put your power connection between strings 1 and 2 at the bottom while connecting data at the bottom of 1 and continuing data from the top of 1 to the top of 2.  Seems like lots of ways to skin that cat without having to put something at the top.   For a similar size tree, I use 12v nodes, 60 node strings in two strands and two strings connected together for a total of 120 nodes in 4 strands (zig zag) with no problem.
Title: Re: Weather-resistant enclosure
Post by: goverland on March 04, 2017, 10:23:20 AM
The controller will not be at the tree and only one port to 1 through to 800.  Yeap, living dangerously but I like to try new things and while not pushing the controller, it's a start.  Controller and 5v power supply will be very close, safe and secure in the garage. At the top also reduces the cable clutter at the bottom and possibly issues with human or animal interactions. But as I test out everything over the spring I will look at both options. 

Even if I had it at the bottom, I still need an enclosure. So still looking for suggestions on a F8-Distro waterproof enclosure to use.

Thanks,
Greg 
Title: Re: Weather-resistant enclosure
Post by: gadgetsmith on March 05, 2017, 05:53:12 AM
I'm planning to try wiring at the top of my small megatree this year to clean up the wiring at the bottom.  I keep my power supply and ESP controller outside in a CG box, so sorry, no help on a good F-8 distro box. I'm assuming a T-100 is too small?
Title: Re: Weather-resistant enclosure
Post by: Todd on March 26, 2017, 08:13:38 PM
I have been using Cable Guard enclosures for years with no issues. I live in Wisconsin so mine have been exposed to snow, rain, subzero temps without any issues at all. I use a combination of CG500's, CG1000's, CG1000XL's and CG1500's. I get mine from www.dfcco.com (http://www.dfcco.com). (DF Countryman Co) Never had any issues with them. Good prices, reasonable and quick shipping. Call them to place your order if you don't use pay pal. They take credit cards over the phone. Only pay pal on the website. No, I don't work for them.
Title: Re: Weather-resistant enclosure
Post by: Emuney18 on March 27, 2017, 05:19:38 AM
I don't know the exact dimensions of the F8 board. They make 4" junction boxes you can get from Home Depot. Otherwise search junction box on Amazon.  I have been looking for some to fit the differential receiver so I know there out there.


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Title: Re: Weather-resistant enclosure
Post by: goverland on March 27, 2017, 07:52:23 AM
Was just looking at the internal sizing of the TA-200 this morning and it looks like it might be an ideal fit.  Fairly cheap by the 10 pack.
http://www.excess-supply.com/site/cart/productdetail.exc?cmd=view_cart_product&co_id=946&item_id=102082&prod_id=867





Title: Re: Weather-resistant enclosure
Post by: David Pitts on March 27, 2017, 10:13:21 AM
Make sure they come without the metal studs. I broke one trying to remove them. I still have not found a way.
Title: Re: Weather-resistant enclosure
Post by: pixelpuppy on March 27, 2017, 10:46:35 AM
Make sure they come without the metal studs. I broke one trying to remove them. I still have not found a way.
I haven't tried it, but looks like a good candidate for a Dremel with cut-off wheel...
(https://cdn.protoolreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Metal-Cutting-650x455.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather-resistant enclosure
Post by: goverland on March 27, 2017, 11:19:09 AM
Make sure they come without the metal studs. I broke one trying to remove them. I still have not found a way.


Was wondering if they could be unscrewed before I found the sku for the non-post one.  Good to know, thanks.


Greg
Title: Weather-resistant enclosure
Post by: Emuney18 on March 27, 2017, 04:20:01 PM
I was able to pull my screws out.  They don't unscrew because they have ribs. Here is the board sitting on top of a receiver board.
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Title: Re: Weather-resistant enclosure
Post by: Jonnyb44 on March 27, 2017, 05:01:32 PM
If only a 16x50 string why inject power it's not needed


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Title: Re: Weather-resistant enclosure
Post by: goverland on March 27, 2017, 05:19:28 PM
I'm only using one port.

Greg
Title: Re: Weather-resistant enclosure
Post by: JonB256 on March 28, 2017, 06:20:52 AM
I recently used my soldering iron to "melt in" some brass inserts for P10 panels.

Those screw fittlings should "melt out" just as easily.